Do You Agree with Jason?

Wednesday, January 18, 2006

Use of Words

As the moderator for this blog, I would like to ask you to not use words that are vulgar, in leaving comments.

Your comments are appreciated, and I am willing to let them stand, even if I don't agree with them. However, I will no longer be allowing comments to be posted if they contain vulgarity.

Thanks, and feel free to speak your mind.

-iagreewithjason

41 Comments:

At 7:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jason......what the heck? I have nothing to say to you..

 
At 6:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

dear jason,

i was the first person to leave the first comment on your first blog. i would like to apologize for all the vulgarity that has occured since then. i am very exciting for you to begin blogging.

dear other commenters,

give jason a break! he hasn't done anything- right or wrong- yet.

love,
chelsea

myspace.com/melon_collie

 
At 9:25 PM, Anonymous David Forrest said...

To what end is all of this being done, Jason? To spread the Word of God? Show me one person on campus that hasn't heard of Jesus Christ and the covenant of salvation He established between the human race and God.

This is America, dude. Everyone here has heard of Christ. If you want this activity of yours to have anything more than a negative effect, take it somewhere like south Asia or the middle east. Perhaps that's too dangerous. Either way it's funny that the only place you're given freedom of speech/silliness is the one place that has absolutely no lack of the religion you hope to spread.

The great missionaries of old risked their very lives to bring the Gospel to the ends of the earth. What chance are you taking? The possibility of getting a papercut while crucifying flyers around campus? The danger of experiencing dry skin from writing "DO YOU AGREE WITH JASON" on chalkboards in many of the classrooms? Laff.

I really do hope you enjoy this because I strongly doubt this is going to render any benefit to anyone else.

Your brother in Christ,

David

 
At 9:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

david...I, too, find it easy to point my finger at someone, when I am sitting idly by.

 
At 10:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey-this blog isn't having a negative effect. I'm having a lot of fun reading about people getting all cranky because some grad student who has been here more than 4 years let slip that this proselytizing scam has been done before. i mean, it's good for a laugh, anyway.

 
At 10:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i agree with jason if jason wants to do tequilla shots

 
At 11:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've had enough of the painfully contrived flyers. Please everyone ignore this so it can go away.

 
At 11:26 PM, Blogger stripes said...

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At 12:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Jason likes cats and houndstooth sweaters, then I agree with Jason on those things.

But I think Jason is tricking everyone into getting all worked up over this, and then alllll let down when we get preached to.

Jason, I think I might start taking down those tacky, tacky posters.

 
At 10:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

pretty blog dood lol'ing at deez commentz

 
At 11:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I laugh at the people who are already assume this is all about religion. It's painfully obvious that no one knows what the hell is going on yet. If the flyers annoy you, ignore them. Simple as that. No one is forcing you to participate in these shenanigans.

 
At 2:40 PM, Blogger stripes said...

david, you're a puzzle. "ignorance is bliss"
anonymous (right above), good word. everyone is so quick to assume whatever the heck they want. i say...come hear the guy out--thursday, SUB, 7PM

 
At 2:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes I'm sure people on the internet will listen to a request to stop "vulgar" words. Words are really scary and dangerous, after all.

 
At 2:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This has to be a religious thing though, nothing else could be so painfully contrived and annoying while still pretending to be fun.

 
At 2:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes I'm sure people on the internet will listen to a request to stop "vulgar" words. Words are really scary and dangerous, after all.

 
At 11:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 1:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Nothing else could be so painfully contrived and annoying while still pretending to be fun."

What about some of the Residence Hall programs? Or Free Condom Day at the health center if you agree to sit through an AIDS program? This COULD be put on by Health & Wellness. Or Dining Services; "Lewis & Clark Holiday Dinner?" Yeah, let's eat the crap they had to survive off of in celebration of Christmachannukwanzakah.

 
At 5:34 PM, Anonymous Caretaker said...

If this not about religion, I must ask a question. Why is Jason (or SALSA for that matter) concerned about if we all agree with him? If this is all about getting us (the CWU student body) to agree with Jason, it seems like a rather lopsided debate, now, doesn't it? Maybe you might consider inviting someone who doesn't agree with you to a debate, and perhaps it might be more interesting,

 
At 5:41 PM, Anonymous Khan said...

Ah, yes.... Thanks to Google Cache, I have determined that SALSA is indeed a religious function.

http://66.102.7.104/u/centralwashuniv?q=cache:UCXvRsFOyuUJ:www.cwu.edu/~salsa/page2.html+SALSA&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
http://66.102.7.104/u/centralwashuniv?q=cache:e_GOju189_MJ:www.cwu.edu/~salsa/page3.html+SALSA&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
http://66.102.7.104/u/centralwashuniv?q=cache:qDwC8O9GOkkJ:www.cwu.edu/~salsa/page4.html+SALSA&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
http://66.102.7.104/u/centralwashuniv?q=cache:1WpGDbDpjgoJ:www.cwu.edu/~salsa/page5.html+SALSA&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

 
At 11:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

^yeah ok good work mr internet detective...^

 
At 11:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This Thursday you have the chance go meet Jason!

Jason dislikes Atheists, he hates science and naturalism, his blood boils at the sight of homosexuals, and he loaths women's rights.

This Thursday, come with signs and shirts, letting these fools know that We don't agree with Jason.

 
At 11:15 AM, Anonymous Aaron Pouliot said...

SALSA is a religious group. Campus Crusade for Christ is distributing Jason t-shirts. It's obviously a Christian function, why pretend that its something elese?

 
At 1:47 PM, Anonymous Caretaker said...

Because if it is advertised as being a Christian function, then only Christians will show up. Not much evangelism can be done there, now, can it?

 
At 2:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look. I'm all for everyone having their own beliefs. Diversity is a beautiful thing. However, I really don't like this sneaky behavior that is going on. If you're trying to get people to be more open to your beliefs, there must be another way. Really, all this is doing is annoying people. I've actually decided NOT to attend your function on the 26th because I do not support this particular tactic that you are utilizing.

 
At 3:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If god is so powerful then why does he need lackeys like you people to do his bidding?

If god were really as epic, infinite, powerful, and awsome as Christians claim, I don't think we'd be doubting his existance.

 
At 7:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll be attending (if I can make it) but if it turns out to be a brainwashing session, I will stand up and leave.

 
At 10:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard Jason agrees with NAMBLA

 
At 11:35 PM, Anonymous Jen -- luteperl@aol.com said...

"Because if it is advertised as being a Christian function, then only Christians will show up. Not much evangelism can be done there, now, can it?" from Caretaker, above.

See, now, THAT is what my problem is with this type of thing. Have your religious meetings, whatever; preach if you want. I respect your religion and I respect you for believing in it.

However, what I don't respect is this secrecy. Let me be blunt and tell you what this looks like to me: An attempt to trick people into going to a lecture that, had they actually known the subject before, would not have gone to. Is this really how you're going to serve your Lord, by duping people?

I, for one, would appreciate some honesty--what is all of this about? Evangelization, by your own admission. That is something I strongly disagree with. Why do you insist on trying to force people to believe something that doesn't work for them?

Your beliefs are yours, and as I've said, I respect that. But at the same time, I have problems with some religious organizations on campus because I do not feel that /my/ beliefs are respected.

If anyones upset by my opinion, feel free to mail me. I'll try to respond in a timely fashion.

 
At 11:40 PM, Anonymous Jen (again... x.x) said...

Hit send before I remembered to add this:

The one thing that really confuses me, though, is that when one clicks the 'caretaker' username, it takes you to a place called ex-christian.net... it's one part of the puzzle that just doesn't seem to fit.

Well, anyway, now I'm actually going to wander off.

 
At 11:58 PM, Blogger I Agree with Jason said...

Jen-

You stated that I have admitted that this is all about evangelization. Well, that simply isn't true.

As the moderator, I have made my comments as a blog entry...except this one and one other.

There have been many things said that might seems as though they are coming from me, but that isn't the case

Thanks for your input.

-iagreewithjason

 
At 12:17 AM, Anonymous Jen -- luteperl@aol.com said...

In that case I apologize for having misread and leapt to conclusions--The fact that someone posts as 'caretaker' honestly confused me toward who was really posting. I realize that this is no real excuse, but one of the forums I frequent has a caretaker account that is in fact the admin.

However, I am not retracting my opinions on why I don't (or /wouldn't/, I should say :) ) agree with this--just my words and an erroneous post made too hastily. You're right: you never said those things, and it was wrong of me to say that you did~

 
At 2:12 PM, Blogger stripes said...

hey jen--the whole point of this campaign is to stir people to ask questions, stimulate interesting conversations, and encourage people to come and listen to what jason has to say. the goal of this campaign is NOT to deceive or trick people in any way. the reason people are not sharing more about what it is about is because they have committed to jason to let him share what is on his heart. the point, like i said, is to get people to ask questions. keep an open mind. i'm encouraged by the response this campaign has received, even if a lot of people think it's tacky or deceptive. i had a girl come up to me and want to know more about what the whole thing is about, so i'll tell her all about it over coffee. i'm willing to tell everyone what this is about, but it requires more than the 2 minutes most people allot for the response to "who's jason?"... go get some coffee with any one of these people who are wearing the bright green shirts and they will gladly tell you. as for everyone who thinks they are being tricked into coming thursday to hear jason, they're mistaken. people who will come most likely will come because they're curious (among other reasons, i'm sure). that's great. and your comment about jason forcing his beliefs on others--yea, think about it some more. when you watch a commercial for tide, are you feeling forced to go do your laundry?? so what if jason is christian and wishes to tell people what he believes. what if jason were homosexual or against war (i'm not stating my position here, fyi), i guarantee you you would have a whole different mindset. it wouldn't be deceptive then, would it? search your motives, then ask jason his.

 
At 4:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"when you watch a commercial for tide, are you feeling forced to go do your laundry?? so what if jason is christian and wishes to tell people what he believes."

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The difference is that when you watch a commercial for tide, eventually you see clothes and detergent, and a statement concerning those two things (Tide is good, whatever.)

Even if there is some slight obscurity at the start of the commercial (for effect) you can still tell within 20 seconds that they are trying to sell you something. This is not the case with 'Do you Agree with Jason"

To make the analogy more clear, it would be like Tide having a commercial that says 'Isn't Tide great?' without ever showing clothes or detergent, and when you go to the store to buy it, all you get is an unmarked box that you have to purchase before you can see its contents. If that happened, you would want to say something to that company about their advertising tactics, right? At least, you would start telling people that you know what is inside the unmarked box, so they can decide for themselves if they want to purchase it. Sure, you might say, "Hey, I just bought this Tide detergent, and it IS great."

If you want to speak out about your beliefs, that is your right, but don't be surprised if people react negatively to a deceptive (yes, this is deceptive) advertising campaign in an attempt to evangelize your beliefs.
You would have had a better reaction if this had been set up as a lecture, debate, or some other form of clearly publicized public forum.

---------------------------------

Stripes- the reason that people don't want to sit down for coffee to talk about this for more than a 2 minute conversation is that they haven't been given any reason to need more than a two minute (or 20 second) explantion. "Do you agree with Jason?" "What does Jason say/think/believe? "Jason believes ________." "I do/do not agree with Jason." End of discussion.

The problem is that you want to turn that 20 second conversation into a Q/A format where you try to make someone reevaluate their spiritual beliefs in an attempt to further your own.

J

 
At 6:15 PM, Anonymous bob arctor said...

stripes said...

"the whole point of this campaign is to stir people to ask questions, stimulate interesting conversations, and encourage people to come and listen to what jason has to say. the goal of this campaign is NOT to deceive or trick people in any way."

---hrmmm this doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything it set out to. I haven't read anything but complaints and half hearted support.

iagreewithjason said...

"You stated that I have admitted that this is all about evangelization. Well, that simply isn't true."

---ok well from your blog post

"Jason believes in...

The powerful, persistent and unfathomable love of the one true God, in the persons of Father, Son and Holy Spirit for all people.
blah blah blah "

---it appears you didn't have anything to say but "isn't god great?" this is evangelization!! you just refused to admit it.


"As the moderator, I have made my comments as a blog entry...except this one and one other.

There have been many things said that might seems as though they are coming from me, but that isn't the case
"

---No, they're not just coming from you... your christian cronies are helping make your blog less of a one-sided complaint against stupid campaigns like this. Did the scheduling center stamp these posters? If so why is CWU supporting this evil brainwashing?

I'm going to go read something that really inspires intelligent conversation and question asking.


http://www.ex-christian.net/

 
At 11:51 PM, Blogger I Agree with Jason said...

Bob Arctor-

There is something to be said about context...

I was responding to Jen's comment about evangelization coming from the moderator of this blog. Jen and I cleared it up that Caretaker is not the moderator, which was where the confusion was.

So, when I answered that comment, to Jen, I had not said anything about Evangelization.

-iagreewithjason

 
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